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Thread: Completely tuned set - finally
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29th April 2024, 12:31 PM #1
Completely tuned set - finally
It's only taken 20 years to finish tuning my set of planes, with the scraping of my biggest three. The #7 I have posted about recently required the purchase of a bigger granite surface plate, but the other two, my #6 and #5 1/2 really should have been done before this. I had the #5 1/2 surface ground to remove really bad pitting, I mean really bad, some still remains on the cheeks. It turned out to be quite concave and since I had my #5 tuned and the #6 working OK, I just never got around to doing it. Luckily it was a really thick casting and still is thicker than all my other planes. The #6 I lapped and was a little convex and a little twisted. The #7 is US wartime (1943) and the #5 1/2 and #6 are heavy English castings. They work beautifully. All three were capable of perfect matched joints on 1m boards, I know, I watched them do it.. My set are all English except the #7 and a crisp original type 8 #4 1/2. I have #3, 2 x #4, #4 1/2, #5, #5 1/2, #6, #7, #10 1/2 in view in the photo. I have more out of shot, wooden jointer and aggressive jack, #40 and a Veritas low angle smoother that I rather dislike. (I also dislike working for Real Estates which is why I'm at home rather than doing my job. grrrr)
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A nice set of planes mic-d - what irons are in the #6 and #5 1/2? Now that you've done yours, can I bring over my set of oldies?
On a different note, what don't you like about the Veritas low angle smoother? I've got one and only used it a handful of times, mostly as I really prefer the Bailey adjusters. The Veritas low angle jack makes a great shooting plane though.
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29th April 2024, 01:15 PM #3
They look great .
It'd be nice trying a dead flat plane out.
One day I will do that .
Rob.
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29th April 2024, 01:17 PM #4
WOW some work went into those planes
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29th April 2024, 01:41 PM #5
Thanks! If you're serious about tuning up some planes just talk to me. The aftermarket blades in my #3, #4, #5, #5 1/2 and #6 are the woodwork forum order from 2009 that Thumbsucker and DJ organised. They were M2. I don't know how hard they are but they are harder and tougher and thicker than original.
I just don't like the aesthetics of the Veritas smoothermemento mori
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29th April 2024, 01:44 PM #6
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29th April 2024, 01:47 PM #7
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29th April 2024, 04:03 PM #8
Mick
It sounds like a labour of love that has turned out well. In your last pic, the storage looks good too. Is there anything that stops them falling out?
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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29th April 2024, 05:33 PM #9
20 years,I’m not sure what the rush was for,
They look fantastic, an I’m seriously thinking about having a go, especially since a certain individual here, he knows who is[emoji849], sent me a scarper to play with.
Cheers Matt.
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29th April 2024, 06:20 PM #10
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29th April 2024, 06:21 PM #11
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29th April 2024, 07:10 PM #12
It's not the aesthetics I don't like, it's the ergonomics of the thing. My LAS & I just never hit it off, which is a pity, 'cos I was expecting much from it based on the hype it engendered when first introduced. But I simply don't get any pleasure in using it, unlike most other planes in my kit (which are not all Baileys!), so it spends a lot of time sulking in the tool cupboard. It was a gift from LOML, so it has to stay.....
Cheers,IW
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29th April 2024, 09:07 PM #13
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30th April 2024, 09:38 AM #14
Me? Controversial? Never!!
Wellll, this is a digression to your own thread, but I feel obliged to clarify what I mean by 'ergonomics':
Indeed, the LAS has a tote, & has a knob for depth adjustment in roughly the same position as a Bailey #4, but that's about as far as the similarity goes imo. The tote is devoid of the shape that snuggles into your hand like the old style totes and the upright angle of the grip doesn't make for a comfortable hold when used on the "low" bench I prefer to work on; my wrist is contorted & I can't push as comfortably as with a Stanley tote. I did something about that tote, and I can live with my index finger waving in the breeze, but it still feels strange, especially if I pick it up straight after using a Bailey or one of my infills for a while.
Then there is what that adjuster knob is connected to. Being 'direct drive' it would need a ridiculously fine thread to match the sensitivity of the Bailey adjuster, which has the benefit of the 'step-down' provided by the asymmetrical arms of the yoke. Having to back off the screwed lever-cap on the Veritas is an extra step, obviated by the cam-locked Bailey cap, which can easily be adjusted to give sufficient locking pressure but allow easy adjustment of the cutter 'on the fly'.
Again, it's all just personal preference - I don't think any less of anyone who prefers the Veritas handles over the Stanleys (the style preceded Leonard Bailey by a good many years, btw, so he's not personally responsible for that part of the design), nor would I castigate anyone for preferring BU configuration on a smoother, even though I feel it just cannot be made to work as well as a BD/double iron configuration. We likes what we likes, and as long as it gets the job done, it's all good......
Cheers,IW
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