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25th January 2024, 06:51 AM #1Senior Member
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“New” Titebond 3 bought online was manufactured 10 months ago
I don’t have heaps of experience with glue shelf life but based on some reading seems that 2 years is the average. My shed will range between 10c and 35c throughout the year - no idea what impact that has on shelf life?
Anyway, bought a bottle of Titebond 3 from Carbatec the other day and I can see from the manufacturing stamp it was made in March 2023. I was a little peeved that for a product (whose manufacturer recommends 24 month shelf) life my “new” bottle is already 10 months into that. Then again, maybe it’s not a big deal based on my shed conditions?
What do you all reckon? It’s reasonable and don’t worry or ask for an exchange?
Edit: obvious question - how quickly will I use it! Hard to say but probably cutting it fine to get through it all in a year. Highly dependent on time in the shed and types of projects which is all over the place at the moment.
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25th January 2024, 08:38 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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My Titebond is usually well past its useby date. If it's not gluggy I wouldn't worry about it.
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25th January 2024, 09:37 AM #3Senior Member
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It's fine now. But I guess it's more that in a year or so, if it's only half empty and it goes bad, then I lose half a bottle.
Is it freezing that really stuffs the glue? Or does heat also do it?
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25th January 2024, 09:53 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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I am what would be called a sporadic user and tend to buy the 4 litre bottles.
The current TB3 that I am using is ~6 years old. But I store it in a coolish place in my shed.
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25th January 2024, 09:54 AM #5
Don't worry; those use by dates are so conservative as to be almost meaningless.
I have 10 year old PVA and 20 year old epoxy - both still work fine.
Nevertheless, when shopping I do check dates! Especially with the super-discounters, but even with Carbatec and Bunnings.
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25th January 2024, 10:57 AM #6Senior Member
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Ok I'll report back in 14 or so months and let you all know how it went
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25th January 2024, 12:18 PM #7
Franklin's data for TBIII states "Storage life 12 months in tightly closed containers" and recommends storage under 75F.
The issues with out of date glues is no so much about if they will set (cure) it's about maintaining the design strength and to perform adequately with open time, long term strength etc.
I would not be happy about being supplied with TBIII stock manufactured 10 months ago.Mobyturns
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25th January 2024, 01:37 PM #8
I get a chuckle with claims that people would complain about glues manufactured 10 months ago, not taking into context that yes it was made 10 months ago. Then it sat in that warehouse for a month then did a 9 week transit to get to Australia where it sat in another warehouse for a month before going to the shop where it may have sat for a month before being sold.
Then it sits in a shed that varies from 5 degrees to 35 degrees not climate controlled at all.
Most products are all good when manufactured as they are generally vacuum sealed it is when the user gets them that things start to deteriorate because of lack of sealing properly and putting on the top shelf where it is the hottest in the shed. Then complains that they did not get the full 2 years out of the glue.Jim Carroll
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25th January 2024, 02:43 PM #9
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25th January 2024, 04:08 PM #10
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I "think" the preferred shipping route from the US to Australia is West Coast of North America - Korea (or China) - Singapore - then the east coast port of Australia closest to Carbatech's warehouse.
essentially the reverse of the route my household goods travelled from Sydney to Canada. From memory the shipment time (Sydney to Canada) was around 4 months.
So 10 months -- manufacture to sale -- seems reasonable to me.regards from Alberta, Canada
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25th January 2024, 04:46 PM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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We're not talking coffee beans here that go stale after a month of being roasted.
You'll be fine, I've had tb3 sit in an uninsulated shed for years and they still pour fine. Once they get gluggy it's time to discard. Think the last time I did that the bottle was at least 5 years old and was repeated had the cap off it overnight due to late night glueups. So buy what you need for a project and don't be tempted to buy the gallon jugs if you're not going to be using it within a reasonable time frame.
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25th January 2024, 10:04 PM #12
Chuckle away, fact is Franklin still recommend "Storage life 12 months in tightly closed containers."
Sure the shipping logistics are not very favourable for Aussie consumers of US made glue, fact of life get used to it.
That's why I prefer to purchase my glue from suppliers with high turnover and where I can physically inspect the packaging. Also why I decant on opening the original sealed packaging into a range of 100,250, 500ml and 1lt (well 973ml) bottles. I do the same with lacquer.Mobyturns
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27th January 2024, 01:28 PM #13
You can always make up a fresh batch of hide glue using a double boiler if you’re worried about it. That’s what I do. Just like shellac, best to make your own fresh from flakes.
cheers SwiftySwifty
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