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8th October 2018, 03:05 AM #1Golden Member
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Stanley No:4 Plane !
Hi Guys,
I don't know if this is the right place for this post or not !
I saw this "Stanley No:4" wood plane, the seller was asking £5.00p for it, it looked in reasonable condition so I bought it with a view to cleaning it up and putting it to work. Anyway I've stripped it down, it seems to be in quite good order, but then discovered that the body, a casting is embossed "Baily" No:4". Everything else is marked "Stanley"
Can anybody cast any light on this. I took the pictures after stripping it down,
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As can be seen here these first three items are clearly marked Stanley and seem to be in good condition.
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The sole plate has some discolouration but no gouges or dings. The casting is clearly marked "Bailey" !
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I found these marks on one of the sides of the body, but they are impossible to make out other than they are letters, but appear to be too many to say Baily and too few to say Stanley.
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This is the adjustment knob. It looks as if someone has used a wrench on it. I'm considering turning the knurling off and re knurling it.
But I do wonder whether it would affect its value at all.
At this point in time I've no interest in selling it, but wouldn't want to destroy its value.
Help and advice sought !
Thanks Guys.
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8th October 2018, 07:10 AM #2
Looks like a fairly early English made Stanley and so may be a reasonable user plane. How flat is the sole?
Leonard Bailey invented the blade adustment mechanism and sold the patent to Stanley, they put his name on casting as a bit of a tribute. Their own name only ever appeared on the blade until the early 1920’s when they cast it into the lever cap.
For 5 squid you’ve got it for about 1/3rd of its value as English Stanleys aren’t really collectable. The marks on the adjustment wheel will indeed have been made with Mole grips or similar, at some point it would have seized onto the threads and resisted being removed by hand and someone went a bit gung-ho.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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8th October 2018, 10:11 AM #3Taking a break
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Bailey patent, made by Stanley. Don't worry about destroying its value, it's not worth much beyond being a functional plane.
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8th October 2018, 11:28 AM #4
what I think you have is a generic Made in England Stanley.
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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8th October 2018, 09:46 PM #5Golden Member
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Thank you for the info about Bailey.
As near as I can tell with a straight edge, dead flat. I did nip it in the mill vise and ran a dial gauge over it. The only place it dips is at the thin edge of the slot for a few thou towards the tail.
The marks on the adjustment wheel will indeed have been made with Mole grips or similar, at some point it would have seized onto the threads and resisted being removed by hand and someone went a bit gung-ho.
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8th October 2018, 09:53 PM #6Golden Member
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Stanley No:4 Plane.
Hi Guys, Thank you all for your advice and information !
I had no idea about how the Bailey name came to be on the sole until you guys put me wise !
I've another question, the wooden parts of this plane have suffered over the years, I wonder how you would go about restoring them.
The varnish has splintered and cracked off in a number of places, particularly the knob at the front.
Thanks again.
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8th October 2018, 09:58 PM #7Taking a break
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Cheaper just to buy a replacement knob https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stanley-P...gAAOSwV-NbrjKW
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