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11th February 2017, 10:51 PM #16
Cost.
I believe a few of us here are looking at cost incorrectly. I reckon if I cored out 3-4 bowls, it would PAY for the cost of the Oneway when I sell those bowls. I still reckon the Oneway system is the best and well over engineered, however, I reckon I will opt for a wood cut sooner than later for 1/2 the cost.
I have spent a fair bit lately, need more tourists over here in WA to buy our wonderful timbers .
We do need some piccys of the other systems to add to this thread, plus a review of each
Sincerely
Willy
PS Interesting discussion, I am enjoying this.
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11th February 2017, 11:07 PM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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I second the photos and actual reviews as whilst I'm not in the making money from turning caper, I do hate seeing too many shavings on the floor. My main thought of a bowl saver is so I could save the smaller cores to cut pen blanks from.......I know I know.... 'you pen turning guys cutting up perfectly good timber' but heck.... If I play my cards right, save cores to get 10 pens from, then I could certainly justify the cost of any system. Whilst I do like the idea of the woodfast as its obviously more available here, the others are spoken quite highly of so I would love to make the right decision when push comes to shove....
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12th February 2017, 08:47 AM #18SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Gabriel
I too dislike seeing wood wasted.
While I dont turn a large number of bowls I think there is a problem with wasting 7/8 of the wood in a blank as shavings. From an ecological point of view all the CO2 locked up in the timber is released back into the atmosphere as the shavings are discarded and decay.
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12th February 2017, 09:10 AM #19
I am not going to enter into the discussion about the pros and cons of the MAX3 v Oneway or any other. I simply don't have the experience and think that those who have commented have brought much more to the discussion than I could. But Willy, I got a haircut one day before filming this. How short do you want it?
As for the use of the chainsaw...I think I use the chainsaw safely. It might not look like it but there are a few things I am doing that aren't obvious in the video that nuetralise many of the dangers. No I am not wearing chaps but to those that think I should then I suggest you need to wear a helmet every time you get in a car, driver or passenger.
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12th February 2017, 09:16 AM #20
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12th February 2017, 11:43 AM #21
There's heaps of weight in the base and if you can get everything made up (or make it yourself) then there is a huge saving (I was surprised by how heavy and well built the base was)! A Canadian company (not oneway) is also making tungsten carbide cutters for these as well (I didn't know it at the time) and I think these would work really well if you plan on coring some dry and abrasive timber.
The cutter size is dependant on the size of blanks you work with. If you do things around 350 - 400mm then go for the #2 (second smallest) which will give you a core around 300mm.
Once you build the base you can always add cutters if you need.
Next time I use it I'll take some photos and start as new thread as I think we've de-railed this one!
Cheers
Josh
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12th February 2017, 01:38 PM #22SENIOR MEMBER
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Back to the OP, a massive thanks to Brendan for his instructional video. I understand a few things may be in contention as far as what some people regard as safety issues, but that aside, the amount of effort, time and insight you manage to fit into your videos Brendan, I for one am grateful. Seeing products in use, especially in high quality video, doesn't happen enough from a consumer prospective . There are always plenty of manufacturer how to videos (always sceptical as they're often a little too good to be true) and many USA and UK reviews on products but always in the back of my mind I'm wondering if they have tested it on any timbers that stack up to the hardness of our 'go to' woods. So seeing a local review on a somewhat local product (we can claim it...right?) I am thrilled.
Cheers
Gab"All the gear and no idea"
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15th May 2017, 09:36 PM #23Senior Member
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Here's a question - where do you get the large compass/ dividers ? would like a pair of those for roughing out blanks?
Chainsaw safety -I've seen much worse. Chaps are ok -my guys have to wear them, and regularly cut into them! - but I bet they wouldn't cut into their legs if they weren't wearing them - they seriously lead to complacency. I don't tend to wear them for this sort of work, you are keeping the saw well clear of your legs- chaps are good for lots of work in dense bush or thick foliage where you are liable to bump yourself.
The occasional "Tractor Steering wheel Grip" is the only problem - where you don't have your thumb looped under the chainsaw handle - (common chainsaw grip from farmers who didnt want to get their thumbs dislocated on old tractor steering wheels when they hit a stump.) This means if the saw kicks back, you are less likely to have the chain break come on as the saw jumps out of your grip. Brendan looks pretty competent to me. Raising the log up higher for less back strain would be the only other issue.
Great video
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11th June 2017, 05:12 PM #25
Let Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlmen
I watched a few videos on the use of the Kel McNaughton system. I struggled earlier on the first bowl and went through the bum, bugger, wasted a good bowl blank.
Back to YouTube, realised my mistake and had more of an idea.
I deliberately cut some large blanks to have another go with the bowl saver, cut some very large and wet jarrah and jacaranda. Was able to achieve more success, not overly happy with the wastage as the kerf is quite large and the shape is not the best, but I will get additional bowls out of a blank, so less waste, the bowls will dry quicker, and lastly, I had forgotten how much fun turning wet timber is. I felt like a professional turner, streams of shavings flying everywhere and water like it was raining in the workshop.
A big lathe makes bowl saving a lot easier and safer as well, the Vicmarc is 3 horsepower.
I have sealed with saved bowls with wax after processing and cut and milled a heap of Jarrah, Jacaranda as well as a heap of York Gum burls.
I calculate that my storage racks are now 99.9 per cent full, need to turn and carve more.
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12th June 2017, 11:30 AM #26
Coring is about the only time I feel the need for more than 1.5hp, although I can manage up to 18" blanks with that using the Reed Gray (aka Robo Hippy) pulse technique. e.g.
Cored bowl - m.jpg
I would take that into account if I was buying a new lathe, but not a sufficient reason for me to upgrade for just that 'nice to have' advantage.
Besides that, how many large blanks do you need in storage waiting to be returned at some stage?
Drying blank storage 1 - sm.jpg ... and there are about the same again elsewhere!
I have found that I only sell one large piece to every twenty smaller pieces, so at that rate I have to make and sell another two thousand smaller pieces before all that lot are gone...Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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29th June 2017, 06:43 PM #27Senior Member
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Hi Brenden, can you explain to me why the largest bowl is cut out first. If you cut from small to large... then you wouldn't have to remount the blank each time, is that correct. Or am i missing something here. Thanks for the vid. Harry
Its ok, saw your next video explaining it,, thanks
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13th January 2023, 03:34 PM #29
Brendan does not have you tube any more.
Have a look here at the woodcut web site for more info.
Bowlsaver Coring SystemJim Carroll
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