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12th November 2023, 09:01 PM #106GOLD MEMBER
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Hi and thanks Dave, You had a thread going recently about where does one get timber for bases. I've always made bases for my boxes from the same timber the box is made from. Large boxes I usually have to rip some timber and glue a couple of pieces together and then drum sand them down to 4mm. My Gifkin rebate cutter is 4mm, as would most others on here be the same. These 23 boxes wont be that expensive so I didn't really want to muck around making up 4mm bases. I went up to Bunnings, they had some structural type 4mm ply, but finish was terrible, purely structural grade for walls of houses. They had some 3mm ply, with a very nice pine finish on it. Big sheet of it, not that expensive. I thought surely I must find a 3mm rebate cutter and bought the ply sheet. I looked everywhere online for an appropriate 3mm rebate cutter. Only found 1 on Amazon I think it was, a 1/8th rebate cutter. Bought it knowing the bearing would not be suitable for a 5mm deep rebate. When it turned up the bearing I needed did not exist, needed a 22mm OD and about a 4.7mm ID. (the bearing on it cut a 10mm deep rebate, great for 10mm timber eh!).
There is a bearing centre in Coffs,.......nothing even close.
Anyway, from my good ol friends Aliexpress I bought a 22mm OD, 8mm ID bearing, and also bought a brass/copper bush 8mm OD with a 4mm ID. Bush fitted perfectly into the bearing. I drilled out the 4mm hole and worked on it till I got it just right. Worked perfectly, and for these little boxes this base would more than suffice.
Paul
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12th November 2023, 10:03 PM #107GOLD MEMBER
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Wow, that's doing it the hard way. I use spiral downcut bits in 4mm, 1/8" and 3/32" diameters depending on what the job demands. I never would have thought of using a rebate/rabbet bit. We all have our own methods, eeh.
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15th November 2023, 10:06 AM #108Member
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Thanks for the tips, the epoxy was done a couple of months ago, I may have been going at it a bit hard, I lightly sanded it with a white sanding pad marked extra fine made for automotive paint and it seems to be ok. Will see how it goes with the EEE polish. If it doesn't polish up OK I will clean it of, rough it up and paint on thin coat of epoxy and start again.
Cheers Rick
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15th November 2023, 01:44 PM #109
If you are not happy with the surface then do not polish it. Not sure what the epoxy would do after polishing.
If it doesn't polish up OK I will clean it of, rough it up and paint on thin coat of epoxy and start again.
Cheers Rick
Without the polish, there is no benefit in roughing the surface before applying a second coat of epoxy. I just apply a coat of straight acetone (or MEK) just before applying epoxy 2.
If epoxy is applied within 24 hours then it forms a chemical bond. If it is applied after 48 hours then it forms a mechanical bond. Between 24 & 48 hours then it may be a mixed bond. My hypothesis is that the acetone treatment assists the bonding process.
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15th November 2023, 11:09 PM #110Senior Member
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Do a LOT of that at work. Just about all clear in gum veins -etc. every now and then in black. Haven't tried the colours/ pearl/ metalics yet.
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4th December 2023, 07:27 PM #111GOLD MEMBER
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Hi gang, I mentioned a while ago I had got a lot of my smaller pieces of timber that I kept putting aside, put them into 3 piles of varying sizes, ripped them all down to 69mm, then through my home made drum sander down to 10mm. And went about making 23 boxes, all the same style, but in 3 sizes.
160 x 90 x 70
180 x 120 x 70
200 x 140 x 70
All with resin lids. I am slowly progressing through the 23, boxes were finished some time ago, resin lids take a lot longer.
All made with the technique that Gifkin Col had on his show several weeks ago. Simple style. And all with 3mm ply pine bases.
Reasons being, to get rid of a lot of my timber, particularly the smaller stuff. To have a bit of a range of cheaper priced boxes on Etsy.
Here are a few pics.
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4th December 2023, 10:03 PM #112
That's quite an array of smaller boxes you have put together there Paul. I'm sure they will appeal to a lot of people.
I hope you have a fool proof method of drilling for those barrel hinges to prevent frustration and hair pulling😣Dallas
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4th December 2023, 10:21 PM #113GOLD MEMBER
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Hi and thanks Dallas. I used to pull my hair out also with those 5mm barrel hinges. Then I watched Gifkin Col several weeks ago and he made that little brass gadget, works perfectly. Go back one page or so on my thread here and I have a pic of it there.
There is one thing to note with that brass gadget. Make several of them as continual drilling through them with your 5mm bit, will wear into them and the holes wont line up perfectly. I fell for that trap but it didn't effect anything as I have my boxes finished, top part (that becomes the lid), cut off, hinges glued. If it is out a smidgeon or so, that gets all tidied up after my resin lid is glued on and flood coat put on. When cured enough to handle ok, (some days later), final sand on all sides with ROS and mirka pads from 80 through to 1000, brings everything all nice and neat and smooth. Then Danish Oil and wax.
But if I make more of these, which I probably will, I will make several of the brass gadget, and toss them away as they become the slightest bit worn.
Paul
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29th March 2024, 12:42 PM #114GOLD MEMBER
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Hi gang, Nearly finished my 37 of these type of boxes. 4 more to finish off. Thought I would put one up I just took pics of this morning for my Etsy shop. Love the old burl lid in this one.
Paul
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30th March 2024, 09:22 AM #115
Very nice as usual and that's a big task you have taken on. I guess it keeps you off the streets. I hope you haven't worn out too many of those drilling jigs for the hinges or if you have, do you have better access to the right brass extrusion than Col?
Dallas
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30th March 2024, 09:36 AM #116GOLD MEMBER
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Hi and thanks Dallas, Yes it's very important to toss that brass jig away as soon as it looks a bit worn and make a new one. Make a few at a time. I bought a 1200mm length of the brass right angle (1.6mm thick) from Coffs Metal Mart. Think it was about the $40 mark. Col lives in Coffs, he might get his there also. I'm 40kms south of Coffs.
Paul
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25th April 2024, 04:23 PM #117GOLD MEMBER
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Hi gang,
All 37 of those boxes I spoke about now finished. I had an old block of Huon Pine laying around in my shed for about 25 years since our first trip to Tassie. I can't use Huon Pine much as my wife is allergic to the smell of it. So I sorta use it in small doses when she is out. This block wasn't that big, I sliced it up and worked out how my boxes I could make from it. Not as large as my large boxes, more like a mini large box. I worked out I could make 4 boxes, first one was experimental, and when I had it nearly completed there wasn't quite enough clearance for the rings in the tray. So I ended up running a strip of Rosewood around top and bottom to give me about another 10mm of clearance, perfect.
Very happy with the outcome here. And of course Aldav's hinges.
Paul
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25th April 2024, 04:57 PM #118GOLD MEMBER
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Where there's a will there's a way, Paul. The usual classy result! That's a very impressive haul of boxes, pretty sure I'd have to build a hanging cabinet to store the WIP's to have any hope of coralling that many boxes in my shed.
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25th April 2024, 11:06 PM #119GOLD MEMBER
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Well that box never even made it to Etsy, already sold
Paul
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26th April 2024, 03:20 PM #120Senior Member
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Great boxes you make always. What resin do you use is it casting, knot hole or liquid glass?
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