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8th March 2018, 06:23 PM #76
March 2018 Update.
The following is an updated list of known RB buzzers;
RB 109, test 4359, 1928-30 - New Zealand (RIP in 1987);
RB 113, test 4367, 1928-30 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 116, test 4374, 1928-30 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 117, test 4375, 1928-30 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 158, test 8623, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 183, test 9335, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 190, test 9407, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 193, test 9452, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBV 255, test 2359/2559 of maybe 1934 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 418, test 10699, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 464, test 14604, of 1940 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 497, test 25435, of 1945 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 512, (test no. unknown) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 563, test 29408, of 1947 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 567, test 29231, of 1947 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 733, test 35300, of 1949 - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 734, test 35301, of 1949 - New Zealand;
RB 745, test 35560, of 1950 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 830, test 39773, of 1951 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 876, test 42337, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 884, test 42634, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 886, test 42636, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 921, test 45225, of 1953 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1010, test 50380, of 1954 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1024, test 50316, of 1954 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag.
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23rd March 2018, 12:47 AM #77
They Just Keep On Coming.
Another one has popped up here in NZ.
RB 839a.jpg
RB 839b.jpg
RD type fence - without rack & pinion handwheel (4th type). Aluminium 3-spoke handwheels. Full size "Brookhirst" door.
RB 839, test 41647, of 1952.
wRB 839 41647 NZ.jpg
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30th March 2018, 07:29 PM #78
...And Coming.
Another from the UK.
RB 611-13.jpg
RB 611-11.jpg
2nd type of fence. Cast iron 5-spoke handwheels. Narrow "Brookhirst" door.
RB 611, test 30332, of 1948.
wRB 611 30332 UK.jpg
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Those buttons look pretty cool on the side their, I never noticed them on ebay.
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4th April 2018, 05:03 PM #80
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27th April 2018, 04:36 PM #81
...And Coming.
Yet another from the UK.
RBA 485.jpg
2nd type of fence. Solid knobbed cast iron handwheels. No depth-of-cut scale or pointer (not on the outfeed table anyway).
RBA 485, test 19730, of 1943.
wRBA 485 19730 UK.jpg
Note the really rough casting behind the tag. Possibly a wartime finish, or maybe some previous owner has removed all the filler. Notice also the voltage - 346 volts - I wonder if that's suitable for today's 400v system?
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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27th April 2018, 04:48 PM #82
April 2018 Update.
The following is an updated list of known RB buzzers;
RB 109, test 4359, 1928-30 - New Zealand (RIP in 1987);
RB 113, test 4367, 1928-30 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 116, test 4374, 1928-30 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 117, test 4375, 1928-30 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 158, test 8623, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 183, test 9335, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 190, test 9407, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 193, test 9452, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBV 255, test 2359/2559 of maybe 1934 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 418, test 10699, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 464, test 14604, of 1940 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 485, test 19730, of 1943 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 497, test 25435, of 1945 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 512, (test no. unknown) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 563, test 29408, of 1947 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 567, test 29231, of 1947 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 611, test 30332, of 1948 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 733, test 35300, of 1949 - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 734, test 35301, of 1949 - New Zealand;
RB 745, test 35560, of 1950 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 830, test 39773, of 1951 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 839, test 41647, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 876, test 42337, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 884, test 42634, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 886, test 42636, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 921, test 45225, of 1953 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1010, test 50380, of 1954 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1024, test 50316, of 1954 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag.
And the score so far:
United Kingdom: 15;
New Zealand: 12;
Australia: nil;
Canada: nil.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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29th April 2018, 10:19 PM #83
Hi Vann, just wondering how you were going on your own RB restoration?
Melbourne Matty.
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8th May 2018, 03:05 PM #84
And another from New Zealand.
Nothing to see here. Move along please.
But seriously - still held up at present. Almost no progress.
Meanwhile, another RB has surfaced.
RB 620b.jpg
2nd type of fence. 5-spoked cast iron handwheels. No view from infeed table, but it looks like the On/Off buttons may be the large classic Wadkin type.
I'd say it's been stored disassembled for a while - but it looks like it's complete.
RB 620a.jpg
RB 620, test 30372, of 1948.
wRB 620 30372 NZ.jpg
And the score revised:
United Kingdom: 15;
New Zealand: 13;
Australia: nil;
Canada: nil.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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1st June 2018, 09:58 PM #85
Well, That's Frustrating...
Another RB has shown up over here.
RB-NH1.jpg
Quite a late one with RD type of fence, complete with handwheel.
RB-NH3.jpg
3-spoked cast aluminium handwheels for table height adjustment.
RB-NH2.jpg
And the large classic Wadkin On/Off buttons .
But sometime during its career someone repainted it, and an NH knife grinding machine, and put the wrong badge back on each machine.
RB-NHt.jpg
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7th September 2018, 03:00 PM #86
From the UK.
Another from the UK.
RB 677.jpg
2nd type of fence. Cast iron 5-spoke handwheels. Missing the blade guard.
RB 677, test 32956, of 1949.
wRB 677 32956 UK.jpg How do I make out "677" from that? Easy, I asked the seller .
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7th September 2018, 03:07 PM #87
September 2018 Update.
The following is an updated list of known RB buzzers;
RB 109, test 4359, Oct. 1926 - New Zealand (RIP in 1987);
RB 113, test 4367, of 1926 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 116, test 4374, Oct. 1926 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 117, test 4375, of 1926 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 158, test 8623, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 183, test 9335, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 190, test 9407, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 193, test 9452, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBV 255, test 2359/2559 of maybe 1934 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 418, test 10699, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 464, test 14604, of 1940 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 485, test 19730, of 1943 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 497, test 25435, of 1945 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 512, (test no. unknown) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 563, test 29408, of 1947 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 567, test 29231, of 1947 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 611, test 30332, of 1948 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 620, test 30372, of 1948 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 677, test 32956, of 1949 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 733, test 35300, of 1949 - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 734, test 35301, of 1949 - New Zealand;
RB 745, test 35560, of 1950 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 830, test 39773, of 1951 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 839, test 41647, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 876, test 42337, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 884, test 42634, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 886, test 42636, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 921, test 45225, of 1953 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1010, test 50380, of 1954 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1024, test 50316, of 1954 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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8th September 2018, 11:16 AM #88
Confirmation.
In the seventh post of this thread I speculated...Later I saidSince writing that I have found a Wadkin booklet advertising the old RC buzzer (including the 9" version) in 1928, while Henry ("clear out") has a 1928 catalogue showing the 9" RB, and I concluded the RB went into production in 1928.
I now have confirmation that RB 109 was tested in October, 1926 (12th - if I read that correctly).
RB 109 Test Sheet.jpg
RB 116 was tested 6 days later. It appears they were being tested at a rate of ~2 per day (allowing for a weekend during those 6 days). Making the assumption that Wadkin started most models at No.105, RB 109 was the fifth RB made, and RB 116 was the twelfth.
Therefore I conclude that production of Wadkin's RB buzzer was from mid-1926 to ~1954, with around 920 machines having been produced (RB 105 to RB 1024).
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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9th November 2018, 07:50 AM #89
From Waitomo.
This is another RB that has previously frustrated my efforts to identify it.
RB 350.jpg
It belongs to a guy I know and is located in the Waitomo region of the North Island (I don't have his permission to be more specific - and we'll call him Al). Al has a monstrous old shed on the family property with a Cresent bandsaw and this RB, and has recently acquired a Wadkin RM and a few other woodworking machines. Until now he's been mostly a handtool worker, but is in the process of getting 3-phase power installed - so work on getting a few machines runable has started.
The RB spent a large part of it's life in Rotorua, where the sulphur laden atmosphere has resulted in a certain amount of corrosion - including the tag (and the screws that hold it on).
RB 355.jpg I just couldn't read that .
Al has recently managed to remove the tag and tells me the Test Number is 32855 - making it an early 1949 machine. The Serial number is less clear, but looks like maybe RB 868.
RB 353.jpg Cast-iron 5-spoke handwheels
RB 352.jpg Shrouded On/Off buttons.
Note that the motor does not fit the motor stand, and is most likely a replacement.
RB 351.jpg
Narrow "Brookhirst" door, and some additional electrical components.
RB 354.jpg
All the features are correct for a 1949 machine - but the serial number doesn't fit the sequence (though that's not unknown). As it's hard to read, I'd suggest the serial number is not RB 868, but RB 668 - which would fit nicely:
RB 620, test 30372, of 1948 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 668, test 32855, of 1949 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 677, test 32956, of 1949 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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21st November 2018, 01:41 PM #90
A Devil of an Update.
Well, AMS have come to the rescue and advise that Test 32855 was carried out on RBA 666.
RBA 666 test.jpg
So here's a November update of the list of known RB buzzers:
RB 109, test 4359, Oct. 1926 - New Zealand (RIP in 1987);
RB 113, test 4367, of 1926 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 116, test 4374, Oct. 1926 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 117, test 4375, of 1926 - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 158, test 8623, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 183, test 9335, of 1937 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 190, test 9407, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RB 193, test 9452, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBV 255, test 2359/2559 of maybe 1934 - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. tag;
RBA 418, test 10699, of 1938 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 464, test 14604, of 1940 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 485, test 19730, of 1943 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 497, test 25435, of 1945 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 512, (test no. unknown) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 563, test 29408, of 1947 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 567, test 29231, of 1947 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 611, test 30332, of 1948 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 620, test 30372, of 1948 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RBA 666, test 32855, of March 1949 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 677, test 32956, of 1949 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 733, test 35300, of 1949 - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 734, test 35301, of 1949 - New Zealand;
RB 745, test 35560, of 1950 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
RB 830, test 39773, of 1951 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 839, test 41647, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 876, test 42337, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 884, test 42634, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 886, test 42636, of 1952 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 921, test 45225, of 1953 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1010, test 50380, of 1954 - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
RB 1024, test 50316, of 1954 - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club .
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